What is the truth about Radical Islam?
To our homegrown rabid anti-American, left-wing, secular-progressive liberal ideologist, facts are very often inconvenient. And … Islamic Jihadists always want to murder anybody who tries to tell the “whole” truth about Islam.
It is vitally important, for those of us who want to see religious freedoms defended in a world where such freedoms are under a very real global assault by a growing totalitarian religious movement with hundreds of millions of adherents, to understand the TRUTH about radical Islamists.
It is true that all Muslims are not terrorists … but right now, almost all terrorists are Muslims! And … I see very few of the non-terrorist Muslims standing up to their radical brothers and sisters, and saying … STOP! Not in the name of our religion!
While there may, in truth, be many moderate and peaceful Muslims, the real question we need to be addressing as a nation is what is the truth about Islam itself? Is it really a religion of peace, or is it, in reality, a religion fully compatible with, and the theological basis for, radical Islamic violence?
How does Islam REALLY compare with Christianity on several important key issues, like the nature of democracy, the treatment of women, and freedom of conscience? If you will take the time to examine each of these areas carefully, you will find there is a very big difference between these two world religions.
For example, we could compare just one important difference … say … the broader issues of politics, democracy and freedom.
Left-wing, secular-progressive liberals like to argue that both radical Islam and conservative Christianity seek to impose a theocracy on the free West. Well, they are only half right. The radical Islamists are absolutely dedicated toward this goal. The imposition of sharia law over the entire globe, or a global caliphate, is definitely spearheading the Islamist agenda.
In fact, Muslims leaders are quite clear about their intentions here. Many Muslim leaders are very open in stating their plan to wage holy war against all unbelievers … until a global Islamic caliphate is created on planet earth.
So …. where are the radical Christians calling for an end to democracy and the establishment of a theocracy?
The left-wing, secular progressives usually point to the Christian Reconstructionists. But what about them? They are very small in number and hardly mainstream in the Christian community. They are mainly confined to the United States, and most leading Christian groups have long-ago distanced themselves from these Reconstructionists.
And … they are not blowing up non-believers!
There is also no global movement to replace secular law with Biblical law. However, in contrast, Islamist jihad is an international movement, with violent activist elements working to achieve their goals in nation-states all around the globe.
And … even if some Christians are arguing for a Christian America, they state that this is to be a voluntary outcome, achieved by Christian evangelism and Christian persuasion. This is hardly at odds with the Constitution.
And for all the left-wing scare-mongering tactics aimed at the Christian Reconstruction movement, many members of this group are really about such harmless agendas as getting more Christians to vote, and to raise their voices in the public arena. Sorry folks, that is simply not an anti-democratic crusade.
In fact, it was Christianity that gave the modern world its notion of the separation of church and state.
This concept goes all the way back to the teachings of Jesus Christ, when he said that we should render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and render unto God what is God’s. In fact, there has been a long Christian tradition going back to 494 B.C. and Pope Galesius and his two swords theory: the state and the church. Each is ordained by God, and each has its own sphere of authority and influence.
The fact that these two spheres of authority may have sometimes become confused by men does not negate the basic Biblical position that the two are to remain separate, yet overlapping, authorities.
This, of course, is in direct opposition to Islam. There is absolutely no separation of church and state in Islam. There is no “secular” in Islam. Every facet of life is controlled by sharia law and the will of Allah. That is why real democracy is not going to happen in Muslim nations.
Even those Muslim states where a semblance democracy is established, like in Turkey or Indonesia, things are very different form from Western democratic nations. While Muslims in Turkey or Indonesia enjoy the full range of rights and benefits found in many Western nations, Christians are at best second class citizens in these so-called Islamic democracies. The persecution of Christians in Turkey and Indonesia is an ongoing problem, and the condition of dhimmitude, or servant-hood, in which they find themselves, is well documented in these nations.
When the left-wing, secular-progressive liberals seek to minimize the differences between Christianity and Islam in the name of tolerance, political correctness, and/or getting along, they only result in the denigration of Western democratic freedoms, and the quashing of necessary criticisms of radical Islam.
There is a very real war going on … and it really is a clash of diametrically opposed ideologies. This clash between the Judeo-Christian world view and the Islamic world view is about “two fundamentally opposed visions for society: one based on sharia … a true theocracy … and the other based on freedom”.
Muhammad’s teachings, Islam, literally means submission, and all people are to be the slaves of Allah.
Jesus made a radically different claim: “I no longer call you slaves … But I have called you friends.” (John 15:15)
Freedom and personal responsibility characterize the Judeo-Christian view of mankind. Servitude and tyranny are the inevitable results of the Islamic world view. The two could not be more diametrically opposed. It is time that these distinctions are pointed out and shouted to the world, instead of being covered up by left-wing, secular-progressive Christophobes and the appeasers of Islam.
Islam has a recorded history! America must open its eyes and read it. We must take the time to really understand the Qu’ran, and Islam … both modern and medieval … and not just what the Muslim apologists want you to hear
The facts are the facts, whether the left-wing, secular-progressive postmodern liberal West likes them or not! And … I guess … really, that’s the entire point of this post.
D.C. Gilbert 
Darren, you’ve made some excellent points here. This one really resonates:
When the left-wing, secular-progressive liberals seek to minimize the differences between Christianity and Islam in the name of tolerance, political correctness, and/or getting along, they only result in the denigration of Western democratic freedoms, and the quashing of necessary criticisms of radical Islam.
There is a trend now for Christianity, as a religion, to be viewed as part of the problematic ‘religion’ tag overall. This will create a vacuum, or a mandate, for new laws to be enstated in which all religion will be regulated or illegal. This is where they will try to get us.
Darren,
I agree with practically everything you say but with one or two qualifications.
You’re right about the separation of church and state being a key conceptual difference between the western Judaic-Christian attitude and an Islamic one. Having said that, many Anglo Saxon states and western constitutional monarchies, don’t always separate religion and state….the UK being a case in point.
I think the key is the nature of the underlying religion if the two are somehow fused. In other words it is the nature of the underlying religious philosophy that determines the ‘culture’ of the state. In other words, if the underlying religion is benign, the state develops in such a way that minority views are respected and defended. This is true of western democracies but also states with other religious histories other than Islam such as Thailand and maybe the Himalayan kingdoms.
In short, I agree with your analysis of Islam…it tolerates no opposition, it is ‘legal’ to kill Muslims who wish to leave and as you say, it is difficult to think of a single Muslim state whereby religious minorities are not systematically persecuted, often to the point of extinction.
One other point…maybe I’m being pedantic, I don’t class all secularists as spineless appeasers. I’m not sure you were saying that? Although I can see as a Christian, it is possible to take exception to their view on things like not being able to celebrate Xmas openly in schools and malls etc, there are a great many secularists who do recognize the points you make and indeed are in the vanguard in exposing the Islamic threat. What do you think?
Would you say that the non-separation of church and state, such as in the UK, is a result of religious necessity … or the attempt by the secular state, or the church, to further secure its position or gain more power? In other words, is it driven by the teachings of Jesus Christ … or by man’s attempt to use religion as a tool to further personal ambitions?
I don’t class all secularists as appeasers … I am a Christian, but I am also a secularist to the point that I believe in the original intent of the Founding Fathers of the Unites States to prevent the establishment of a state religion.
Within the left-wing secularists in our country, however, is a movement to twist the Freedom of Religion idea into a freedom from religion (as long as it the Christian religion), while at the same time pander to any other religion, or even cult, that comes down the pike. This is the group I refer to. Perhaps I did not make that point clear enough.
Darren,
I think the non-separation of church and state has been driven by both as a personal tool and as a result of political necessity when religion could require a practitioner to serve a ‘foreign’ religious leader seeking political hegemony.
I’m in danger of going off the point which is this: Christianity (particularly the protestant variety) has had within it the ability to allow the development of ideas, including separation of church and state. But even when church and state haven’t been seperated, there’s always been hope.
Even during the dark days of persecution, there often often been examples of enlightenment, often from the more ‘hardline’ elements. These developed momentum during the English Civil War and despite the ‘Puritan’ background of Oliver Cromwell, he actually acted to guarantee religious tolerance and disestablished the state church (including the Anglican colonies). He did not go as far as his Secretary, John Milton, would have liked, who argued for separation of church and state.
The English puritans were a pretty hardline, dour bunch: music restricted, heresy punished, Christmas banned, soccer banned, etc etc….sounds like the Taliban! But from group of people came a leadership that actually allowed religious toleration and debate did take.
Can you image this happening with the Taliban? Can anyone imagine this happening anywhere in the Islamic community. Where are the Miltons, where are the John Locke’s within Islam? Does Islam have no political academics or thinkers? Or ss Islam incapable of reinterpretation; of modernisation or is it inherently cruel, expansionist and intolerant? Why is there no articulate, educated Muslims speaking out…why no new force for change from within the Ummah?
Maybe…maybe there is some hope. I think perhaps that Turkey might offer some hope. It’s long time since a did my Politics Degree but I remember being impressed by the story Kemal Aturk’s reforms and his separation of religion and state. You’re right, there has been victimization of religious minorities but do you think Turkey is a possible example of Muslims making attempts to reinterpret Islam in a modern context?
Do you believe that Islam is incapable of reform? It’s a pretty depressing prognosis if not.
Phil
Anniesha,
I am not saying awful things about Islam, only radical Islamic fundamentalists who wage jihad on any non-radical Islamic fundamentalists … including other Muslims.
Al Qaeda is not one individual. Neither are the many splintered groups that make up Islamic fundamentalist terror organizations.
I have read several translations of the Quran along with books by former Muslims that have left Islam because of the fundamentalist issue.
The sad thing to me is that, while I will condemn radical racist right-wing Christian groups who perpetrate crimes against non-believers, I do not see moderate Muslims standing up and saying to radical Islamic fundamentalists, “Stop! Not in the name of our religion!”
Why is that!
May God’s blessings smile down upon you as well!
If someone was about to kill everyone would you go up 2 him and say “Stop! Not in the name of our religion?’
erm…. no!
so why dont you tell the terrorist to stop yourself instead of telling Muslims to do it and sitting on your ass judging our religion when you know absoloutely nothing about it?
to phil – it is not okay to kill in Islam, I dont know where the hell you got that information from. It just proves how little you really know about Islam. The fact that you said Islam tolerates no opposition was just a bunch of crap like the rest of the article. SOME people who call themselves “Muslims” don’t tolerate opposition but of course you don’t see this because your so closed minded.
and the first picture’s a load of crap aswell. Its obviously cut and pasted on there.
And to the poster ” Radical Islam is not a threat?”
– why don’t you try explaining to all the innocent muslims in Lebanon killed by Israelis why the hell thier brother and sisters were murdered and there lives turned upside down for something they had no part in? You didnt think about that did you? That maybe jus MAYBE innocent MUSLIMS were getting killed but no! you decide to just mention the Christians.
– the people of is Israel?
what the hell about the people of Palestine. Israel is cutting of any help that Palestine desperately needs. Who the hells helping Palestine? What would you do if the Israeli army drove into your country and started shooting? would you sit back and do nothing and wait for them to kill you? And most people of Palestine are poor and have nothing to fight back with except stones when Isralis come strolling in.
– the people of Iraq
America were the ones that decided to wage war on Iraq and I know that Saddam was a cruel man but they could have found a different way to help the country instead of killing everyone. If america didnt start bombing the country then it wouldnt have gotten this far. You cant just say that its the terrorists fault that loads of people are dying in Iraq, it’s America’s fault aswell and if you can’t see that then you’re just stupid.
And yeh most terrorists these days are Muslims but if most robbers were Christians you wouldnt say that all Christians are robbers would you? And i dont see why the fact that they are Muslim is such a big deal its wrong and it doesnt matter what religion they are there’s no excuse. And YESSSSSS! it is wrong to take a life in Islam so imagine what a big sin it is to take a life in the name of Islam. These extremists have got it wrong and good people who are Muslims shouldnt be punished and blamed for what some stupid easily influenced people did.
Did you notice the word “radical” in the title!! I have never stated all Muslims were terrorists. In fact, I have repeatedly stated the opposite.
If someone was going about killing people in the name of “radical Christianity,” most Christians would not only disavow those actions, but would also aid in the capture of those responsible for those killings.
Actually, I know a good deal about Islam and have read much of the Quran as well as several books on Islam by noted experts. You do not seem to know the Quran as well as you claim.
Or maybe the terrorists and those who preach from mosques throughout the Middle East are just reading a different version, because virtually all of their sermons that I’ve read claim their God wants them to kill all “infidels.”
Some examples of Quranic verses:
“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.” (Surah 9:5)
“I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them.” (Surah 8:12 )
Let us also not forget the Quranic doctrine of “abrogation,” according to which Quranic passages are abrogated (canceled) by subsequently “revealed” verses that, as Ibn Warraq writes in his book “What the Quran Really Says,” convey a “different or contrary meaning.”
In his book, Warraq states that according to what Muhammad taught in Sura 2:105; `Whatever verses we (i.e., God) cancel or cause you to forget, we bring a better or its like,’ the issues of the abundant contradictions that can be found in the Quran was resolved. Abrogation, he writes, however “does pose problems for apologists of Islam, since all the passages preaching tolerance are found in Meccan (i.e., early) suras, and all the passages recommending killing, decapitating and maiming, the so-called Sword Verses, are Medinan (i.e., later).”
Warraq’s conclusion is that tolerance has now been abrogated by intolerance. In fact, the famous Sword verse … at Sura 9:5, `Slay the idolators wherever you find them,’ is believed to have abrogated (canceled) 124 verses that promoted toleration and patience.”
According to Islam, there are only two ways to get to Heaven. The first is to make sure that you live a life that can be judged as at least 51% good. Then it is up to Allah to judge whether you actually get in to Heaven … it is not a guarantee. However, if you die as a martyr in a Jihad directed against the infidels … then you are guaranteed passage into Heaven!
I know innocent Muslims are being killed as well. That makes the whole situation with radical Islamic terrorism even sadder.
OK, then …
Its been almost 60 years since the passage of U.N. Resolution 181 which created the state of Israel. The same resolution also called for the creation of an Arab Palestinian state.
The Palestinians have been offered (and will probably continue to be offered) their own state many times throughout history. The Israelis and the rest of the world have no problem with, and in fact would prefer the existence of a Palestinian state. And the Palestinians are perfectly capable of handling statehood.
There is, however, one major reason why the Palestinians dont have a state, and why, at this moment, they do not deserve a state. And this reason is their refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist. This is also the #1 source of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Palestinian terrorism and Israeli settlement activity are secondary problems. The Palestinians’ consistent refusal to recognize Israel is by far the #1 problem.
The war in Iraq is unfortunate. However, American soldiers have killed far less innocent Iraqi civilians than Saddam Hussein, Al Qaeda operatives, or the insurgents. For the first time in many years, the Iraqi people have a chance at some sort of democratic self-rule … and … the American soldiers will be only too happy to go home when the government elected by the Iraqi people has the situation under control.
As for Christians, true Christians follow the teachings of Christ. Nowhere does Christ say anything even close to kill all the idolaters, take them captives, besiege them, or lie in wait for them in every ambush.
It was more a message of love your neighbor as yourself or to treat others as you want them to treat you.
And yes … historically, horrible things have been done by some in the name of Christianity. But … real Christians will always condemn those actions … or help work to have them stopped.
You asked
“Left-wing, secular-progressive liberals like to argue that both radical Islam and conservative Christianity seek to impose a theocracy on the free West. Well, they are only half right. The radical Islamists are absolutely dedicated toward this goal.”
So are the christist right wing nut jobs.
Well as an active member in our armed forces, and a secular NON-CHRISTIST, I find alot of christists trying to infiltrate the US Govt and military to spread their diseased beliefs in christism. Just check out the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and the lawsuits they’re in right now to keep Dominionists out of the military and the Govt.
There’s also a good site here that points out the christist desire to eliminate the Constitution and replace it with the bible.
http://www.jewsonfirst.org/dominionism.html
Now, don’t get me wrong, I fucking hate islam. I’ve been to the middle east and delt with them first hand. The only way to ‘negotiate’ with them is with a gun, preferably while the barrel is still hot after unloading a magazine in them.
But the fundy christists in the US want to do the same here. Just with less violence (untill they run things and can get away with burning folks at the stake.) Religion is for morons and small minded idiots. It should be banned the world over. Only then will humanity have peace.
hey peopl here islam s not like tht if u want the real of it search deep inside . and i am sure u ‘ll find wht u lookin 4 . so pleas leave these jwesh ideas about islam . cause they r had black hearts . they want the world n fire . every one hats the other like them . but let me tell u somthing man . u don’t know any thing about islam at all really . so i suggest u must learn the meanning of islam first . then think wid ur mind .finally learn every thing about islam not his people. cause there’s not one on the world s perfect . by the way look for the shinening side of muslims they r not like tht all . they r not perfect . i was christain . now i am proud 2 be muslime .sure it’s the best feeling in the whole world . so please think million time b4 talking about thing tht u don’t know about . thank u
The world Islam means “peace”, how you think Islam preaches for war and violence. Means peace preaches for war, violence and bad things. That is absolutely illogical. If you want to know more about Islam or if you have some questions about Islam watch peace or visited http://www.peacetv.org
Before you get into the discussion on theocracy, it would be prudent to have an understanding on the reasons for any action under a religious authority (God) rather than simply saying you personally disagree with certain actions.
All such talk by persons who are not knowledgeable is such matters are somewhat irrelevant.
First, you need to talk about Proof of God i.e. can your religion rationally or scientifically put forward the concept of God or are you just ‘faithful’ with no great reason or because your following your ancestors tradition and therefore not through knowledge as God demands. Or are you following the trends of your society (democracy), and dismissing that religion has an unavoidable part in public life
Second, are the scriptures still in the form as it was revealed from God or has the Torah, Gospel, Koran & Hadith been convoluted by men?
It is worth noting here that although most have mainly tried to show the difference between them, all the major religions mentioned actually speak of a successive revelation & prophet. Obviously, this does not apply where God has stated that his favour to mankind is now complete.
e.g.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
“Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you”.
“Ahmed” or “Muhammad” meaning “the one who praises” or “the praised one” is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word ‘Comforter’ is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me”.
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version
Regardless of how the common man is or is not submitting to the will of God, it is not sufficient just to say they are in error and then to dismiss the practice of that religion. You need to stick to the revelations and agreed practices of the Prophets.
This article does not supply any evidence based on revelation (i.e. the direct word of God) nor from the agreed sayings of the Prophets (i.e. Hadith, Gospels as According to the Disciples) so it should only be taken as incomplete views of the author.
Obviously, the author is still in a position to influence a lay reader and thus should be held accountable by readers to provide evidence.
It goes without saying that God will also hold us accountable for all our action.
If you are sincerely interested in contributing, and want to learn more before commenting try this site:
http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/index.htm
It makes it a point to provide quotes from all the revelations it discusses. Download section is also worth your time.
Peace.
I’m not sure where you got the “surahs” from, that you quote herein. I’m a european muslim, and never have I picked up a “Ku-ran” that states that we should kill; and suicide is a HUGE sin in our religion (no excuse for suicide). There are times where the Ku-ran says that it is okay to kill. when its eye-for-an-eye. For example if one killed my father it would be okay for me to kill their father; however, if I find forgivness for that individual then Allah will appreciate me more.
The hate will never stop if people continue to go back and forth discussing these subjects, because it creates more hate and violence; therefore, not making any of us better then those who do the evil.
I’m not certain why the “radical muslims” do what they do, they obviously use the religion as an excuse, but the thing is as soon as you say “muslim” it does not matter what comes before or after people are going to get upset. It is human-nature because the Jews and Christians would too.
If you desire you write and article always know more than your audience and defenatly always understand what you are talking about.
First of all the title: RADICAL islam. I am REALLY offended by this, how can you say Islam is radical when you don’t even know the full story.
When you talk about Muslim terrorists, you think ALL muslims are like that, well thats not true. These terrorists have got it all wrong, when you blow up your self that is killing yourself isn’t it? Well in Islam you are strictly NOT ALLOWED to kill yourself. So how can these people be the same as the normal Muslim people that are being punished because of what these people have done.
So, in the future, before you start posting these articles, you need to get your facts straght watch the pictures you put in the articles, and make sure your not offending anyone, like you did this time.
Muslim 786
You must be one of the PC Liberal Muslims … to be so easily offended. Either that, or you didn’t read the post and just looked at the pictures.
Though it is true that not all Muslims are radicals, the ones that flew two passenger jets into the World Trade Center were; the ones who bombed the USS Cole were; the ones who bombed the marine barracks in Lebanon were; the ones involved in the first failed attempt on the World Trade Center were; and the ones involved in the various terror plots that have been uncovered and stopped were.
And … if you defend and support those actions … so are you.
That is the problem I have with you moderate Muslims who, instead of taking a stand against this so-called usurping of your true religion, sit back and decry the prejudice and unfairness of Americans who, like me who are angered and who warn against the danger these radical Muslims pose to the Western world.
Look pal … if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Nobody hears of the American lives lost defending Muslims in Bosnia, Chechnya, Somalia, Afghanistan, and yes, even in Iraq. If radical Christians blew up some big Mosque in Saudi Arabia and murdered 3,000 Saudis, I would equally denounce that action and, if possible, help being about their capture and punishment. I don’t hear too many moderate Muslims (outside of Iraq ands Afghanistan)making this same statement.
So if it offends you when I call radical Muslims radical Muslims … so be it. I am sure it would equally offend radical Christians when I call them radical Christians as well.
thank you …..
because You publish this way Islam more
Thank you with all my heart
I call you to identify Islam instead of fighting it
Please delete the previous comment posted with the name Anniesha. Thank you.
Done
Darren,
I’m only a fourteen-year-old muslim girl. I don’t know more than you or anyone on this site about America’s actions or Iraq’s but I just want to say.
You can say whatever you want to about those terrorists and Al Qaeda but never address “Muslims” as a single group. All those terrorists who justify thier actions with islam aren’t classed as Muslims.
I respect that you want to make your point but the way Muslims all around the world are treated, in these cases civilians, is beyond religion. Anyone human should be able to see that they don’t deserve it and that they are truly suffering.
I hope that one day you will come to realise Islam is a religion of peace.
Inshallah
Thank you